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hiking onwards

Trying to stub-sort Roadwalking. Gave it {{hiking-stub}}, which produced a message to say that it was subject to an SFD (following discussion in the archived talkpage). Looked at the SFD, and the verdict was already "delete", so I cancelled my edit. So: What category can we use for this item? There seems to be no suitable broader category to include "recreation", "outdoor activities", "walking" etc, where we can stubsort any aspect of walking other than {{trail-stub}} or {{climbing-stub}}. Any ideas? I'd expect to find something under either "Leisure" or "Transport" but can't see anywhere. PamD (talk) 16:04, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

• {{sport-stub}} is probably too broad, I'm thinking. What about proposing a {{walking-stub}}? Her Pegship (tis herself) 18:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
  • {{Walking-stub}} would simply re-create hiking-stub under a different name. This one's a bit of a puzzle, though. We've had occasional suggestions for some sort of outdoor pursuits stub, and perhaps it's worth reviving that as a proposal again. Grutness...wha? 01:39, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
    • Walking-stub has the merit of covering more ground (pun intended) than hiking-stub...Outdoor-sport-stub would be too broad; perambulation-stub too obfuscatory... hmm. Her Pegship (tis herself) 18:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

possible new stub

look, i just finished reading the novel Brooklyn Follies by paul auster, and I saw it was listed as a crime novel stub here. that is definitely not the case, so i checked other stubs in literature and none fit! children, crime, fantasy, historical, horror, mystery, philosophical, romance, science fiction, spy, thriller, war novel, western, and young adult are the only types. I was thinking that this book, as well as probably many others fits a genre that should be called something like "life/events/every day experiences/trandescending time of a person's life" novel, as it is just about a certain year in the character's life and what happened there. I don't know if i'm making myself clear. another example is kennedy's A Confederacy of Dunces, or amelie nothomb's Attentat, which is just about the crazy things/people in life. any suggestions for a name? or did i miss an existing genre for this?190.31.247.244 (talk) 20:45, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

• I don't know how it got stubbed as a crime novel. It's now under 2000s novel stubs. Stub categories tend to be fairly broad and basic; if you find a permanent category that fits, please feel free to assign it to that article. Cheers, Her Pegship (tis herself) 22:14, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
  • BTW, the term you'rem looking for is probably Slice of life. Grutness...wha? 00:49, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
    • Nice one, I didn't know the term Slice of life190.31.247.244 (talk) 19:42, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Addition to instructions

It's been pointed out to me that the proposal instructions had no details on how to propose upmerged templates, so I've added a sixth point to them - please check that it's right and amend if necessary! Grutness...wha? 23:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Added note to instructions

I've finally got fed up enough of people proposing things that have already been listed at SFD to add a note to the top of the instructions section of this page. Please edit/amend as necessary! Grutness...wha? 23:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Gah! It was already there - I've made it more prominent. Grutness...wha? 23:49, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Overhaul of stub-templates

This is more of a meta-proposal about stub-templates than a template proposal (and more long-range) so I'm putting here not on proposals list. While looking at Old City Hall (Philadelphia), I saw three different stub-tags. Each of the tags contains duplicate content from the others (the generic "help improve" text) but also each of which uses different formating for the image (wrap text next to it vs inlining), different links and linkformatting in the standard text, etc). Also, none of them use {{clear}} or some variant that other stub-tags use, etc. So here's the proposal...have a generic {{stubtag}} template that to standardize all the formatting, and then a stub-template would just pass it the specifics of the stub (via icon= and desc= fields, for example). Would help simplify the stub templates themselves and standardize and improve the layout of pages that use them. DMacks (talk) 17:39, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I'd suggest you check the archives of this page. A suggestion like this comes up on average once every couple of months, and though it sounds appealing on the surface, there are numerous reasons why it is not such a good proposal in the long run - which is why it's never been adopted. Grutness...wha? 02:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I had (and just again) browsed the TOCs of the three archives of this talk-page, nothing sounded related. But if it's been discussed and current ad-hoc solution was found to be better, that's fine. DMacks (talk) 03:41, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Hm - my mistake - I misread what you were actually proposing (I was thinking it was a suggestion to combine the several stubs on a page into one larger metatemplate). Your idea certainly has merit, but - as Pegship points out below, while it would work fine if all stub making was rigorously controlled, too many individual editors make their own templates "on the fly" for us to keep them all uniform in the long run. Grutness...wha? 01:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi DMacks...I feel your pain. I think the reason for the proliferation of variants is that when someone creates a stub template, they usually copy from another existing template, regardless of the code. Plus I'm not sure all the stub sorters know there's a "master" code on the WPSS page. So cleanup would certainly be admirable, but I think it wouldn't be long until entropy set in again. Cheers, Her Pegship (tis herself) 15:58, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Norse stub

I'm unsure of exactly how to create a stub/category/template, so could someone else please create a stub cat for all articles relating to the Norse, not just Norse mythology. Thank you, ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 19:07, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Best thing to do is follow the instructions at WP:STUB and actually propose it, which is done on the main WP:WSS/P page, not the talk page! Grutness...wha? 21:52, 20 September 2008 (UTC)