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  2. List it at the top of the current month's section, under a header, like the ones shown (if any). Sign it with a datestamp (~~~~).
    • Please bear in mind that a stub category isn't about the importance or notability of the topic!
  3. Find a good number[1] of stub articles, as many as you can, that will fit that template. Each of these articles can be:
    • currently marked with {{stub}};
    • currently marked with another type of stub tag (in which case you should justify why your tag is better for the article than the current one);
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    • not marked as a stub.
  4. Others may do the same, if they so desire.
  5. 5 days after listing it here, if there is general approval or no objection, go ahead and create the new category and template following the format on Wikipedia:Stub. List the new stub type on the stub types list in an appropriate section. If consensus is not clear, or discussion is still ongoing, the proposal will remain open until consensus can be reached.
  6. If you wish to propose a stub type which does not currently have 60 articles that could use it, you may propose an upmerged template in a similar way. An upmerged template would feed into currently existing stub categories until such time that there are enough stubs for a separate stub category. At that point a category for it may be separately proposed.

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^ . Good number means about 60 articles or more, or 30 or more if it is the primary stub type of a WikiProject, though this figure may vary from case to case.


"Speedy creation"

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Proposals, October 2008

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NEW PROPOSALS

Cat:English cricket biography stubs; by DoB?

Significantly oversized. We've already split out the internationalists; by county might work, but might involve multi-stubbing, especially for the more recent chaps. Other than that by decade (or century) of birth would seem to be the somewhat traditional thing. Alai (talk) 22:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Cat:paleontology stubs: by taxon, or by time?

Oversized. Lots of these are for forms of prehistoric life, for which we already have a number of existing types; we could continue that, with ever finer-grained taxa, paralleling the general tree-of-life hierarchy. Or, we could split by geological era (not to say, supereon, eon, period, epoch and/or age, as required). There must be a WPJ or two we could give a bell on this... Alai (talk) 22:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

{{Earthquake-stub}} (possibly by country)

Owing to confusion at the Canadian WikiProject over what geo-stubs are used for, they seem to have been labelling earthquakes as geo-stubs (since they relate to geography - questionable, since they actually relate more to geology, but still). Given that they are specific events, we generally stub-sort them as history stubs. In order to alleviate this confusion, I'd like to propose {{Earthquake-stub}}, plus separate by-country stubs for earthquakes in several countries/regions where they may be useful, as follows:

All would be upmerged into Cat:Earthquake stubs and into the respective history stub categories for now, with separate categories once threshold is met. Cat:Earthquake stubs itself would be a subtype of Cat:History stubs, Cat:Geography stubs, and Cat:Tectonics stubs. Grutness...wha? 22:18, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Cat:East Antarctica geography stubs by... I dunno

Tricky one. Now even more oversized than its parent type; lack of subdivisions. I hate to engage in such Grutness-baiting ideas as splitting by landform, but few alternatives seem to suggest themselves. Alai (talk) 21:32, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Hmph. One or two Antarctic claims (although suspended by the Antarctic Treaty) seem pretty stable, notably AAT, Ross Dependency, and France's Adélie Land. Those could quite easily be split out. Grutness...wha? 21:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
But it necessarily wouldn't be a comprehensive split, since it'd leave a large chunk of the ones that are not only suspended, but overlapping and disputed. So what'd we do whent he remainder hit 800, again? Seems questionable in terms of primary significance and utility, too. If the existing permcat's any indication, Adélie Land certainly wouldn't be numerically viable -- and if it's not, a re-sort by hand would be required. Still, if someone else is going to do the heavy lifting, and it gets it off the list... Alai (talk) 00:07, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, they've all got equivalent permcats - and all of those permcats are undersorted, so there's a good chance they'd all reach threshold, even Adélie Land. Norwegian Antarctic Territory doesn't overlap with anything either, and between the four of them they cover almost the entirety of East Antarctica. Seems the best way to do it to me, and given that simply knowing the longitude will tell you which of the four they're in (and most Antarctic stubs should have coor templates), it shouldn't be that difficult to sort them. As far as Adélie Land is concerned, we can finally get rid of the dozen or so TAAF stubs as well if we combine the two into a French Southern Territories geo-stub type (leaving the problem of a name for the template...). We could do the same with the one stub for Bouvet Island and N.A.T. It would comfortably kill all three penguins with one stone. Grutness...wha? 00:37, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
I trust none of those are protected species of penguin. You make a good point about {{coord}}: there seems to be over 1000 such transclusions, which I'll endeavour to find a means of crunching and lumping. Still seems likely ropey to me, but there's a lot to be said for "easy". On the FST: why not two (or more) separate templates? Alai (talk) 02:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
No problem at all - the name is the main problem. TAAF-geo-stub would make sense if we used abbreviations, but we don't usually. FrenchSouthernandAntarctic-geo-stub or similar sounds pretty clunky, though. Grutness...wha? 05:09, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Cat:Slovenia geography stubs, by region

Oversized; best bet to me looks to be to split by region. Not sure if lots of upmerged municipal templates are worth the candle, in this case. Alai (talk) 21:08, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Cat:New York geography stubs, by region

Slightly oversized. Assorted regions might make viable splits: at the broadest, Upstate/Downstate (which would avoid the tristate-ish connotations of NYMA); perhaps assorted possible narrower ones, like North Country, New York, Western New York, Capital District, Central New York, etc; eventually some individual counties might become splittable. (Obviously we should templatise by country, per usual practice.) Alai (talk) 21:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

speedy Cat:Austrian actor stubs

Template has over 60 articles. Waacstats (talk) 17:25, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

{{Svalbard-geo-stub}} and Cat:Svalbard geography stubs

I count 115 Svalbard geography stubs, so it is about time it got its own template and cat. The nineteen counties of Norway each have their own cat, but Svalbard is not part of any county, instead being a overseas territory, and has seen a recent explosion in short geography-related articles. Arsenikk (talk) 13:42, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Cat:moth stubs families

Parent is oversized. Alai (talk) 01:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Cat:writing system stubs split

Oversized; several of the corresponding subcats would make numerically viable types (such as the diagraphs, the trigraphs, and such like), but the most coherent looking to me would be Cat:Latin alphabet stubs and Cat:Cyrillic alphabet stubs, each of which seem to be well over 60. Alai (talk) 00:51, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Split of Switzerland-geo-stub

Cat:Switzerland geography stubs has about 1100 articles - propose canton-specific templates, with categories speedied for any passing the 60 mark. We already have about half of them - the others would be:

Grutness...wha? 23:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Support - greatly needed The Bald One White cat 11:47, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Support templates, and any viable categories. By-canton categorisation (and infoboxing) seems to be relatively poor, though there's some undersorting to existing types. Manual re-sorting may be required, though if many of these are on large landforms, that may require a lot of multi-stubbing. If we need to upmerge to regions, I'd recommend using the NUTS-2 ones. Alai (talk) 18:38, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Split of Cat:Malaysia geography stubs

Split Category:Malaysia geography stubs by state of Malaysia The Bald One White cat 10:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Cat:Analytical chemistry stubs

Proposed for speedy create - There's already a template. The category got upmerged into physical chemistry stubs 2 years ago, presumably for lack of entries... There are currently 67 stubs for this category, after a not-really-complete sorting process, and several people to actively work on sorting & improving the articles. The category would focus and accelerate that. -- Jaeger5432 | Talk 16:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Recreated under WikiProject Chemistry as {{analytical-chem-stub}}, with category and hierachy. Physchim62 (talk) 22:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Cat:Artistic gymnast stubs

Recently created - already oversized, propose the following splits

all will be over 60. Waacstats (talk) 14:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

{{Infosec-stub}}

There are a great number of information security related articles which need care to knit them together and flesh them out. Currently, the articles are spread across financial/economic, business, risk analysis/management, and other topics. One of threads that binds these together is information security which is often under-represented as in the following articles. These are not all stubs, but the parts relevant to information security may be considered stubs in some cases. Single loss expectancy, Risk assessment (I've begun to add infosec information to the article), Risk management, Information assurance, Information security, Confidentiality, Integrity, Availability, Vulnerability (computing), Exploit (computer security), Computer security, Computer insecurity. Thanks. DavidBailey (talk) 15:11, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

{{Norway-gov-stub}} and Cat:Norwegian government stubs

I count ca 70 stubs for government agencies, ministries, affairs etc in Category:Norway stubs, so should be speediable per S2. Arsenikk (talk) 20:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

There certainly seem to be a few, though my knowledge of Norwegian is not good enough to know at a glance whether there are 60, and Cat:Norway stubs isn't crammed full (seems to be a bit of undersorting, too). A template's a good idea, and if there are indeed 60 then I've no objection to a category either. Grutness...wha? 22:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Follow-up on the undersorting- I've gone through A-J the lot sorting any that could have gone in subcats - and the main cat's down from 460 to 430 375. Grutness...wha? 23:22, 6 October 2008 (UTC), updated 00:23, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

{{Korea-writer-stub}}

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The Bald One White cat 15:23, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I'll upmerge this now. The Bald One White cat 11:47, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

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Adhesives Stubs

I think there should be a category called Adhesives Stubs because many articles about adhesives are stubs: Cat:Adhesives stubs Monkeyman389 (talk) 16:02, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

With only 79 articles in Cat:Adhesives and its subcategories, I'm not convinced we'd reach the threshold of 60 stubs for a separate stub category. I've certainly no objections to an upmerged template (either {{adhesive-stub}} or {{glue-stub}}) pointing to somewhere like Cat:Tool stubs, though. Grutness...wha? 01:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Specific sorting of American films

I know the convention at WP:Films is to stub sort by genre, but myself and other editors i know like to work through years in film. I don't think the sheer number of American films is a reason not to organize it. What for instance if I wanted to work through American films of 1941?. How would I know which are stubs, I;d have to plough through them all and check each one. Given that US subjects however many thousands of articles we have are stub tagged shouldn't this be the same for US films too? Why are they exempt from US tagging? I know that many people would probably see this proposal as too extreme but I think it is a valid one given the considerable improvmeent needed on many notable American films and would be a very useful tool to organizing exactly what needs improving and working towards a situation where we can actively work at getting them all up to start class. As an example {{2007-US-film-stub}}. Naturally a bot would be used. If some years don't hit 60, which I would find highly unlikely for later years then they could always be upmerged e.g Cat:1900s United States film stubs. I propose the following:
The Bald One White cat 10:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Yep anything over three stub categories begins to look awful and cluttered. Basically I think there should be one genre stub cat {1930s-drama-film-stub} and one country template e.g {1933-US-film-stub}. Occasionally the film may clearly be in another genre so it may need 3 but gneerally I think it is possible to have two stub templates per article. In terms of organization and content building I know it would be a very useful tool and may even encourage editor to work at devleoping the years and also the lists The Bald One White cat 14:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
In your opinion yes, not fact. Equally how are you do know the film work group wouldn't find it useful as a way to develop the articles? You and a number of others persist that genre categories are of vital importance, but basically you are assuming that editors would be more interested in working through e.g "2000s drama film stubs" which includes films not only from the United States but just about everywhere else China, Philippines, Thailand, Brazil, Mali etc. Do you think it is more common for editors to want to work on films from every country in one stub category which are often barely related in terms of cinema, language and style? Or is having stub categories for US films which is completely in keeping with other US-stub sorting on wikipedia, which many more are interested in and focus almost purely on would be an absurd idea as a tool for the film project?? As for your justification that it is invalid because there is often an overlap between American and British film, you must surely know that there is in every way a strong overlapping in production between Italian and French films, and spanish and argentine films yet we have a decent country structure in place for each of these. The Bald One White cat 09:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Strong feeling of despair and hopelessness????? . In that case if thats your attitude thats the last time I ever list a stub proposal here. The Bald One White cat 09:31, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Whoabackupthereabit. It was a valid suggestion for a split, and it was also a valid rationale why it wouldn't be the best idea. I appreciate that the "strong feeling of despair" line may not have been the most appropriate, but we all get feelings like that about stub splits every now and again and sometimes they come out (I know I'm one of the first to say things that others can take the wrong way - it happened recently at SFD). Please let's just assess the options and try to find a good way of splitting things. Both of you are important stub workers, so no talk of stalking off, huh? Grutness...wha? 11:40, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Haven't thought this through completly but how about splitting the American films out of the current genre/decade categories so we would have something along the lines of {{2000s-US-drama-film-stub}} - Cat:2000s American drama film stubs etc. I'm sure that in the same way that the people working through Cat:drama film stubs may not know much about say spanish films, those working through a Cat:1900s United States film stubs may not know much about horror films. Waacstats (talk) 13:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
That would be an excellent idea I think and would solve my concern about the generalisation. Naturally we wouldn't want to have that category split too much but making American films more distinct from them would be a good move The Bald One White cat 13:20, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

{{Nepal-school-stub}}

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Create as upmerged template for {{Asia-school-stub}} and {{Nepal-stub}}. Most of the 26 articles in Category:Schools in Nepal are stubs. -- Eastmain (talk) 16:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

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Split of Cat:Romania geography stubs

We already have templates for all(?) the counties upmerged to regional cats. Someone has been busy and the following are all viable on the basis of those templates.

Waacstats (talk) 11:04, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

{{Singapore-struct-stub}} and {{SouthKorea-struct-stub}}

Much needed. Would also take many out of the geography stubs cat. How we are missing one for singapore I have no idea The Bald One White cat 21:59, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Cat:Central American writer stubs

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The Bald One White cat 21:47, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

There are many missing articles from spanish wiki which I have and will be adding further so that seems like a logical idea. Upmerge the ones that don't qualify? The Bald One White cat 18:48, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Proposals:

Could somebody offer a stub count and which need upmerging, me has to go to beddy boys. Cheers The Bald One White cat 22:02, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

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{{Norway-politician-1740s-stub}} and {{Norway-politician-1750s-stub}}

The thing is, while there are not 60 stubs of Norwegian politicians born in the 1740s or 1750s, this is meant to be categorized in the large Category:Norwegian politician, 18th century birth stubs. Categorizing here, and not in the vague Category:Norwegian politician stubs, would be good. Punkmorten (talk) 08:48, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Proposals, September 2008

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More templates reach 60

Another grab bag of categories for which upmerged templates that have reached 60. Speedy propose the following 8 categories.

Waacstats (talk) 10:29, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Cat:Cook Islands geography stubs

It's been a while, but another country has crawled to the 60 geo-stub mark and can be speedily given its own category. Grutness...wha? 05:47, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

{{Copenhagen-stub}}

A stub category for all articles related to the city of Copenhagen. Many of the Copenhagen articles are not even stub stagged. The Bald One White cat 18:46, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Various upmerged templates reach 60

The following templates have all reahed 60 leading to the listed categories being proposed for speedy creation

Waacstats (talk) 15:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Speedy The Bald One White cat 18:55, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Add to that

Waacstats (talk) 23:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Split of Cat:Texas geography stubs

Over sized near 850 stubs. Suggest a split by county The Bald One White cat 15:48, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

254 counties! I think we need to look at a few dozen regions. Waacstats (talk) 13:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Few dozen would likewise be too many. What about this as a starting point? Or some non-overlapping selection of the geographical regions of Texas? Alai (talk) 17:15, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Eeks there are really 254 counties? Wow. Perhaps not then. By region would seem sensible as has been suggested The Bald One White cat 20:09, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

{{Taiwan-school-stub}}

I apologize for not initially going through the proper process. I created {{Taiwan-edu-stub}} for Taiwan education articles, primarily Taiwan schools and universities, to place them under Category:Taiwan education stubs like Category:Hong Kong education stubs; before it was difficult to find Taiwan-specific school stubs in Category:Asian school stubs and Category:Asia university stubs. From the discoveries discussion, I now think the best solution would be to create the upmerged template {{Taiwan-school-stub}} to place schools in Category:Taiwan education stubs and to change the pre-existing {{Taiwan-university-stub}} to place universities in both Category:Asia university stubs and Category:Taiwan education stubs. After a count, I think there are around sixty Taiwan school and universities stubs, but currently not enough for their own subcats. --Jh12 (talk) 03:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering when this one would appear :) A separate template is a good idea, upmerged for now to both Cat:Taiwan education stubs and Cat:Asian school stubs. Grutness...wha? 23:23, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Speediable, I think. Alai (talk) 00:28, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Cat:Vietnamese building and structure stubs

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Although the main Vietnam stubs isn't overly large, Vietnamese geography stubs is nearing 800 and seems to wrongly categorise many articles which would normally be building and structure stubs. There also are many articles which aren't even stub tagged at all. Cat:Thai building and structure stubs was recently created which will be a useful tool for WP:Thailand. There isn't as many articles on Vietamese buildings but it easily passes 60 and would be useful I think for the project. The Bald One White cat 15:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Anything that gets struct-stubs out of the geos would be very useful. Support. Grutness...wha? 00:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Created. Now around 80 stubs tagged so far. The Bald One White cat 20:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

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{{Norway-film-stub}}, {{Iceland-film-stub}} and {{Czech-film-stub}}

Create upmerged templates. In the same way as Denmark, is likely to be viable for its own in a short time frame. Note there has been a recently created Nordic film task force and such a creation would be very useful to the project, which is why I have proposed them. I would suggest that a Cat:Nordic film stubs is created (which I created as a result of the finnish film stub category having only 36) as the wider cat, until they reach the requirment. just a suggestion. The Bald One White cat 13:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

The reason why I purposefully didn't link it that way is because there are very few films post 1993 at present. By "Czech film" it implies both "Czechoslovakian" film and "Czech Republic film" and basically "Czech language film". Perhaps it might be best to have it as Czech-language-film-stub to avoid the political mess. The Bald One White cat 15:11, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Split of Cat:Documentary film stubs

713 stubs at present. Would suggest splitting by decade in coordination with the other genres. The Bald One White cat 13:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Do any of the categories under Cat:Documentaries by topic have enough for a split, we already have a cat for music documentaries. I would prefer to go that way first rather than decades if possible. Waacstats (talk) 14:18, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes I'd thought about by topic. In my experience though I've always found it best to split by decade as often the precise topic may span numerous categories and oftne there is an uncertainly to which it should fall in. Music and bio documentaries already exist and are likely to be the most valid ones. The Bald One White cat 14:38, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Mmm. If the consensus is by topic for documentaries I have no objections. I was thinking in terms of consistancy with other film stub conventions although I guess documentaries differ in this respect. What I don't want to see though is over categorization as we often see with such things e.g Documentary films about ice cream etc. The Bald One White cat 14:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Split of Cat:Tennis stubs

Propose the creation of {{Tennis-venue-stub}} and {{Tennis-tournament-stub}} or {{Tennis-competition-stub}} which are both clearly eligible. Tennis stubs overbloated with 546 stubs. Tennis venue stubs in particular is a much needed creation and would each sports venue and struct stubs. By tournament I also mean individual years of a competition such as 1994 Miami Masters rather than just for "Miami Masters". Probably tennis-competition-stub would be more appropriate in this respect. I thought these would have existed. The Bald One White cat 12:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Support a template for competition/tournament (Does this include the tennis at the xxxx Olympics articles), lets see whats left after that before creating a venue template. Waacstats (talk) 14:13, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Split Cat:Restaurant stubs

Split by continent. Over 600. Some like US may be eligible for national stub categories. The Bald One White cat 12:17, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Split Cat:Asian sports venue stubs

Over 500. Split by region of Asia. This would also ease the regional struct stub categories too. E.g Al Zawra Stadium would become this article about a Middle Eastern sports venue is a stub The Bald One White cat 12:17, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

{{Dam-struct-stub}}

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Much needed creation of dam stubs. There should be enough to think about regional splits such as a {{Asia-dam-struct-stub}} etc if they qualify. The Bald One White cat 11:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

There are probably more than enough for a {{US-dam-struct-stub}}, too. Sounds reasonable. Grutness...wha? 00:26, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
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Split of Cat:Prison stubs

Suggest creation of {{US-prison-stub}}, {{England-prison-stub}} etc and any others which are viable and by continent. The Bald One White cat 11:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Support the US template, I think a {{UK-prison-stub}} rather than england is also a good idea, categories for both if over 60, don't know that we really need continent splits just yet (less than 400 stubs in the stub cat at the moment). Waacstats (talk) 13:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the category will look considerably more sparse if the two above are created. ANother example of wikipedias bias towards "us". The Bald One White cat 13:26, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

IIRC there are oprobably enough for an upmerged Australia-specific template, too. Grutness...wha? 01:21, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
We already have an Australian category. Waacstats (talk) 11:18, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
There has to be a joke in there. Alai (talk) 13:55, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Heh. Indeed so - and I hadn't noticed the subcat already existed. My dad (a New Zealander) always used to say that Aussies were inherently superior to Kiwis; back in the old days anyone could become a Kiwi, but Aussies were hand-picked by the best judges in Britain... Grutness...wha? 00:14, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Split of Cat:Asian football club stubs

I haven't checked to see if any individual countries have over 60 although Japan on a quick check has 61. but there are well over 500 stubs in this category. By region of Asia would probably the best initially The Bald One White cat 10:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

When you say by regions, which regions? for most things we use the UN geoscheme, however for football-bios we have gone with FIFA regions, I know that the AFC is split into regions so Is it the UN or AFC regions. note we currently have a bit of a mess on the Asia-footy-bios because we seem to have both for MEast/West Asia.Waacstats (talk) 13:19, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Well I was thinking about middle east, central asia, south asia, far east and south-east asia The Bald One White cat 13:24, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Based on that where does Australia go? The current split has them in Asia. I don't necessarily disagree with that split just throwing up an obvious problem. Waacstats (talk) 14:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean? What has Australia got to do with it? We already have Cat:Australian football (soccer) club stubs and Cat:Oceanian football (soccer) club stubs? The Bald One White cat 14:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Missed that one. I assumed that we split the club