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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on March 5

Articles created/expanded on March 4

Anna de' Medici

Herman Phaff

Note Created in userspace on 14/2, moved to main space today. Smartse (talk) 22:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Vizsoly Bible

The Vizsoly Bible


Haverfordwest Castle

Church of St Lawrence, Alton

Church of St Lawrence


Museo de la Estampa

La Catrina


Toluvila statue

Crucifixion (song)

  • ALT1:... that Joseph Byrd's arrangement of Phil Ochs's "Crucifixion" has been described as "one of the great moments of experimentation in all of 1960s pop music"?

Created by Malik Shabazz (talk). Self nom at 05:35, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

  • I prefer the first hook. The second is WP:WEASELish. You might add US Senator before Robert F. Kennedy since you can't expect non-American readers to who Kennedy was.--Carabinieri (talk) 06:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Done. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 18:38, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Beating Heart Cadaver

  • Why is Beating Heart Cadaver capitalized in the hook and in the title, but not in the body of the article?--Carabinieri (talk) 05:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I am fairly new- what is wikipedia policy on capilalization? I would think that this should not be capitalized, and would just change the hook to be not capitalized. But, does the article need to be moved or can it keep it's capitalized title? E2eamon (talk) 05:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • You can read about Wikipedia's policy on capitalization here and here.--Carabinieri (talk) 05:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • acording to wp:mos, it should be moved, so I did that. Will fix all links to the page tomorrow. Alt 2 links properly. E2eamon (talk) 05:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I fixed all the redirects, so now all links to the article are good. (Although I left the links in the original hook and Alt 1 linking to the redirect). Alt 2 links properly to the moved page. E2eamon (talk) 15:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Interactive Museum of Economics

  • Symbol question.svg As I am unable to read Spanish I added a cite that validates that it is the world's first children museum. Also while attempting to ascertain if it was the world first overall museum dedicated to economics I came across another [1]. Believe addressing it such, as it appears from the article and others that it indeed an interactive children museum. Calmer Waters 08:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
The first sentence of the article from La Jornada (reference 1)states "Es el primer museo del mundo dedicado a la economía." (It is the first mueum in the world dedicated to economics.) I dont known where you found children's museum although it does have exhibits geared towards kids.Thelmadatter (talk) 13:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Good to have an English language source though... thanks I didnt expect to find one.Thelmadatter (talk) 13:44, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Ouvrage Rochonvillers

Secret until 1971

  • The hook is referenced at ref #32. Acroterion (talk) 02:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting keep.svg This really should have been nominated on 16 February when the expansion started, but since you're new around here and 16 Feb is still on the page, I'll overlook that this time. Article verified but I was unable to verify the image. Gatoclass (talk) 13:49, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
What do you mean about being unable to verify the image? Do you mean that you're unsure that it's a photo of Ouvrage Rochonvillers? Nyttend (talk) 17:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm hardly new here, but I found the item that gave me the hook yesterday, among five volumes of French documentation. In any case it's a 10x expansion. The image is clearly indicated on Commons as Rochonvillers, and it checks out with my published sources and with online sources. I suppose I could apply the hook to any expanded article on Maginot positions, but this is probably the most interesting one, given its history with Germany, NATO and subsequent re-use by France. Acroterion (talk) 20:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


German submarine U-1065

  • Symbol question.svg References checks out however article is short of the minimum 1500 prose size. Currently it's at 1393 B (240 words) "readable prose size". Dr. PDA's page size counter-tool was used for the prose measures. --TitanOne (talk) 12:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
I've fixed the size issue. It's now at about 1512 B.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 21:31, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Holy Family Catholic Church (Frenchtown, Ohio)

A white church located amid a cemetery

  • Comment: I'm planning to create a stub on Frenchtown well before this will reach the Main Page.

Created by Nyttend (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 00:22, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Great Britain at the 1992 Winter Paralympics

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Can't see any problems. Smartse (talk) 22:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on March 3

Bang (The Good Wife)


Add alt-text!
Add rollover text!


Fordicidia

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Length and date verified. --Mcorazao (talk) 16:34, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Smallscale archerfish

HMS Adamant (1780)

Rudy La Scala

ALT1: that singer-songwriter Rudy La Scala had the best-performing Latin single of 1990 in the United States?
  • This article is based primarily on the subject's own website.--Carabinieri (talk) 04:05, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
That is the reason I did the ALT version of the hook. The ALT is based in the Billboard Year-end charts of 1990.Jaespinoza (talk) 06:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Elarbi Khattabi

Ramahurmuzi

  • Yes it is indeed a weasel word, I was trying to make this hook brief and the answer to your question is well-documented in the article. I changed the wording above to reflect another source and have avoided using a weasel word.--Supertouch (talk) 11:34, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • "From the first"? Confused. Nyttend (talk) 12:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Meaning a number of authors wrote books during the same era therefore they were all the first to do so, and Ramahurmuzi being one of them is from the first. I found an additional source and plan to add to this section soon. I changed the hook (again) so hopefully this meaning is more apparent now.--Supertouch (talk) 15:01, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

William Milman

  • Symbol question.svg Though this is an eye-catching hook it seems misleading from the article and the reference. --Mcorazao (talk) 23:29, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Mildred "Micky" Axton

  • Symbol confirmed.svgDate, length, refs, and hook OK.--MaxEspinho (talk) 09:48, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

History of vice in Texas

Girdap

Former Girdap headquarters in Ruse, Bulgaria

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg Length and date verified; AGF for Bulgarian-language sources. Nyttend (talk) 12:48, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


St. John the Baptist Catholic Church (Maria Stein, Ohio)

A brick church with a tall tower


Sotir Peçi

  • Symbol confirmed.svgDate, length, refs, and hook OK.--MaxEspinho (talk) 10:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Kesha Rogers

Figure skating at the 1956 Winter Olympics - Ladies' singles

  • Symbol confirmed.svgDate, length, refs, and hook OK.--MaxEspinho (talk) 10:10, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

This Too Shall Pass

Revolution 1 (Take 20)

  • Symbol question.svg Hook is 284 characters, while it should be less than 200 characters.--MaxEspinho (talk) 10:02, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Friends of Cathedral Music

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Prose size is only 832 characters while 1500 characters are needed for DYK. Hook is 240 characters, while it should be less than 200 characters.--MaxEspinho (talk) 09:58, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Louis Jordan (American football)

Makauwahi Cave

  • "has been described" is a typical WP:WEASEL phrase. Besides, "maybe the richest", "perhaps" make the statement very vague.--Carabinieri (talk) 14:17, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that the traditional name of the Makauwahi Cave was ressurected from a high school student's essay written more than a century before?
  • Symbol confirmed.svg They are not "weasel words" when the speaker is identified in the article itself, and the quote itself appears to come from professionals in the field, so given that the original hook is by far the more informative, I have verified it. Gatoclass (talk) 11:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Israeli art student scam

  • Why are the lead and body of the article about apparently very different subjects? Ucucha 08:16, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment: This article was previously deleted on 1 March 2010. See here. --Bruce1eetalk 08:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Can't comment on the previous article, but I do remember reading about this at the time and I think it's probably a legitimate topic for an article, although the current version may need a little work. Gatoclass (talk) 09:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I'm not convinced it's simply an "attack page", although the article may need some work. It appears to be well sourced and this very odd alleged "spy scandal" garnered quite a bit of publicity at the time. Gatoclass (talk) 11:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
The 1 March deletion was an inappropriate speedy delete, so it should not be a reason to reject this DYK. It is unlikely that such a delete will occur again, since I asked several admins whether it was an appropriate application of CSD#G4 and they agreed it was not and offered to restore. You can read more about the issue here. Factsontheground (talk) 11:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
I have created an afd for it.--Peter cohen (talk) 13:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Wolf Haven International

  • ALT1:that Wolf Haven International replaced most of its staff and board of directors after the USDA began investigating whether a dying wolf endured prolonged suffering before it was euthanized?
  • ALT2:that the 80-acre refuge at Wolf Haven International shelters 47 wolves that would otherwise have no homes and is visited by over 20,000 people a year?

5x expanded by Collectonian (talk). Self nom at 07:55, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Loharinag Pala Hydro Power Project & G. D. Agrawal

  • Article needs to be copyedited and wikified.--Carabinieri (talk) 14:21, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Wikified lists to prose, copyedit-Marcus334 (talk) 23:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC).
  • The Agrawal article has serious problems with its tone, bordering on POV. The Loharinag Pala Hydro Power Project article for the most part lacks inline references.--Carabinieri (talk) 04:24, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Jose Peralta

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Date, length, and hook OK. However, I suggest changing "United States Congressman" to "U.S. Representative" as official and more widely adopted description. Hekerui (talk) 09:38, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Done. Changed to "U.S. Representative", as per suggestion above by Hekerui (talk · contribs). As for the comment by Carabinieri (talk · contribs), it is unusual, as the Congressman had previously supported Peralta's opponent. However, I would be more than willing to entertain other hook suggestions (though I think this one is fine). Cheers, Cirt (talk) 14:24, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Alt hook, proposed. Cirt (talk) 14:42, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I think the alternative hook is better.--Carabinieri (talk) 04:27, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

June 18, 2001, tornado outbreak

  • Isn't it quite common for a tornado to destroy buildings?--Carabinieri (talk) 04:24, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Well yes actually but it pretty much leveled Siren, and I thought the part about the hockey arena was interesting. But, I could come up with an alt if you would prefer? -Marcusmax(speak) 22:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 2

Dusios

George Sitwell (Sheriff)

  • Comment: ref in lede, ODNB subscrip. required

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Suggested ALT1:
  • Pictogram voting keep.svg Hook verified either way. Gatoclass (talk) 11:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Cornwallis in Ireland

A 3/4 length portrait.  Cornwallis, a portly man with white hair, wears a red military tailcoat and a blue sash over a white waistcoat and light-coloured pants.  His right hand rests on a cane.


The Chase (Desperate Housewives)

  • How is this fact unusual? Couldn't a more interesting fact be found in the article?--Carabinieri (talk) 04:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

List of Olympic medalists in baseball

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Date, length of expansion, and hook verified Calmer Waters 07:34, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

My Best Days Are Ahead of Me

  • Comment: Created by another user as a redirect. I made it into an article.

Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Nominated by TenPoundHammer (talk) at 01:51, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

  • This fact doesn't sound very unusual to me. Couldn't a more interesting one be found in the article?--Carabinieri (talk) 04:51, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I think just the fact that a popular act such as Lady Antebellum wrote a song for a newcomer is interesting enough, never mind that Lady A's song was turned down for a different song. Singles aren't usually withdrawn like that on country radio. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 21:10, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Though the hook doesn't strike me as very unusual despite your explanation, I'll leave this decision up to someone else.--Carabinieri (talk) 04:46, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Old City Hall (Zagreb)

Nikola Tesla plaque

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg Date, length, and AGF for foreign language offline hook. added Image Calmer Waters 03:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Article mostly lacks inline references.--Carabinieri (talk) 04:28, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Sanajeh

A model showing a brown snake with black spots coiled in a nest with eggs, broken egg shells, and a green dinosaur hatchling. The eggs are large and partially buried in sand.

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Server not found, for either the hook statement cite or the image. Gatoclass (talk) 12:29, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Do you mean the DOI link? I'm not sure why that's not working, but I've linked the PLoS Biology article in the citation. Smokeybjb (talk) 19:46, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Working now. Verified both article and image. Gatoclass (talk) 11:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


West Street Baptist Church, East Grinstead

Front view of a brick building with arched windows set in arched brick recesses, a projecting flat-roofed ground-floor porch with rectangular windows, a pediment bearing the words "ZION CHAPEL 1810" and a small adjacent brick building with a steep roof.  Both have black doors.  A sign on the porch reads "West Street Baptist Church welcomes you".

  • Comment: Refs are [28] for "restrained and dignified", [7]/[8] for first Nonconformist church (third para of History) and [21]/[22]/[23] for EG's unusual diversity of religion (near end of History section). Hook is 193 characters sans (pictured); English can replace West Sussex to save some space.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg The East Grinstead article does not describe any history of Protestant Nonconformity and alternative religions while it seems it should. Not sure if the West Street Baptist Church article's mention of such near East Grinstead suffices, but there may be more. Hard to evaluate, as i don't understand many of the terms. --doncram (talk) 23:35, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


Fernando Krahn

  • Because not too many cartoonists get published in prestigious journals? Gatoclass (talk) 09:39, 3 March 2010 (UTC)::::
  • Article is currently 16 chars too short. Gatoclass (talk) 10:51, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Article could use a copyedit, any volunteers? Gatoclass (talk) 14:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Ann Baumgartner

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Verified. Would make a good Women's Day hook. Gatoclass (talk) 12:34, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Sylvester C. Simpson

50P/Arend

  • One of the main sources in the article, cometography.com, appears to be a personal website.--Carabinieri (talk) 14:24, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Hook has 4 references main source of which is the SAO/NASA Astrophysics Data System (ADS), Astronomical Journal v.113, p.1433. With regard to the site it only outlines the historical references but not sourced entirely through this reference alone. Please let me know if you think it needs more citations? I didn't place all of them at one time due to several instances in the past has led to other editors to comment that I've done citation overkill per this article as an example. --TitanOne (talk) 12:10, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Savilian Professor of Geometry

  • Comment: Sandbox version moved to mainspace today.

5x expanded by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 18:46, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg I'm a little confused as to how an article moved from mainspace could be a x5 expansion, but either way, it's still eligible. Gatoclass (talk) 14:19, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Romualdas Marcinkus

Romualdas Marcinkus with pilot's outfit

  • Comment: version moved from sandbox on 2010-03-02

5x expanded by M.K (talk), Dr. Dan (talk), Novickas (talk). Nominated by M.K (talk) at 17:20, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Please add alt text to the image, per the red text. Gatoclass (talk) 12:37, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Fixed, M.K. (talk) 21:21, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • "Football" should actually link to association football, I'm guessing? And what does "multifold" mean? Never heard the word before in my life..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:29, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
multifold > many, numerous; direct link applied.M.K. (talk) 21:21, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't think 99.9% of people will know what that word means. What are you trying to express? That he won lots of football championships? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes more or less, that he was many times the champ. BTW, even google gives the same translation to LT word [2]. Feel free to propose better expression . M.K. (talk) 12:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
I think "three-time Lithuanian football champion" would be fine. "Multifold" seems to be an extremely obscure English word and I honestly think that hardly anyone (other than Google's bot :-) ) would know what it meant..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


Thomas Rutherford Bacon

  • Yes. It is. I am sorry.
  • That's better. No objections on my part.--Carabinieri (talk) 04:31, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Edward Woolsey Bacon

  • Symbol question.svg Length, references and dates checked and look good. But, I wanted to bring up that the hook makes his leadership of black soldiers sound heroic while the article...not so much. The article points out that he was probably pushed into the military leadership of colored troops by his father and that his own attitude was 'patronizing'. That term brings a negative connotation for me. I was hoping to get another opinion from other editors as I am a newbie at DYN verification... Sabiona (talk) 16:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Sorry, no such connotation was intended, and I also did not mean to intend that he was "pushed" by his father--far from it. His attitude was indeed patronizing, same as with most Connecticut whites of the time. If other editors also feel this needs tweaking, we'll get to work on it. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:32, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Solachon, Kardarigan (6th century)

Reedy Lake

Lenyadri

A rock face with a six-pillared cave front (left) and a carved cave entrance (right). Greeny patch at the bottom. A hill with green patches and carved caves in the middle

  • See the red writing under the image. Gatoclass (talk) 14:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • But personally I think you should use the original image, it's more interesting. Gatoclass (talk) 14:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Verified, images verified as CCA. Gatoclass (talk) 13:27, 3 March 2010 (UTC)


Olvir Rosta

  • I don't understand this sentence.--Carabinieri (talk) 14:31, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Whoops. How about now? I was missing an "after". The saga records of how both Olvir and his grandmother attempt to take the earldom of Orkney by force. Later, they get attacked by followers of the earl, on their own lands. In this attack, the grandmother and her attendants get boxed into their house, which is then burned to the ground; Olvir flees the scene, never to be heard of again.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 05:53, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Ulrik Olsen

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Expansion and source verified. Nice job. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 10:03, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Harold Ballin

Harold Ballin

George B. Bacon

  • Symbol question.svg Where in all that bacon does the source say they were Congregational? Ucucha 05:05, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I just added a source per Bacon. Thanks Ucucha. Oh, I'm trying to write up stubs for the other two as we speak. Not that I have a job or anything like that. Drmies (talk) 14:38, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Nice sources you have there. Those Bacons were some sensible men. Ucucha 19:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Leonard Woolsey Bacon

  • Note: I think I have achieved five-fold extension, if I don't count the original bibliography. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Eh, ahem, I said Charleston? Surely not! (oops--this is what happens when one writes an article and keeps it on ice for months. sorry.) How about adding a "reportedly" in the hook? (I just did--see what you think.) Drmies (talk) 13:44, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • That works. Symbol confirmed.svg I went ahead and changed the hook to read "Savannah" instead of "Charleston" as well.
  • Thanks. I'm sorry--that was just sloppy on my part. Drmies (talk) 14:37, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Calf's Liver and Bacon

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Length, date, and hook check out... though I'll pass on the taste test of this one! Bradjamesbrown (talk) 16:26, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I wasn't going to stink up the house even for a photograph. I remember the smell of liver. Brrr. Drmies (talk) 03:47, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Commentarii de Bello Civili

  • The title of the book needs to be in italics per WP:MOSTITLE. This needs to be changed both in the hook and in some parts of the article.--Carabinieri (talk) 04:35, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Albertina Dias

  • Symbol question.svg I'll give this the green light if the winning of team medals is cited. As to "general references", I've found that they only confuse the reader, really: "where did the writer find that, and that?" - especially over time when multiple editors edit an article, inserting various claims. Geschichte (talk) 09:12, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Fixed most of the citations, but there is another question: the hook fact "must be mentioned in the article" (WP:DYK), but the article doesn't mention that she was the "so far only". Nor is that covered by the reference, which only goes up to 2006. Want to tweak the hook? Geschichte (talk) 09:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 1

Whitney Avenue Historic District

Whitney Avenue Historic District outline on map


Elizabeth Yates (author)

  • This shouldn't actually be AGF - the hook is cited with this page. StAnselm (talk) 22:43, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I did check that. I must have just accidentally selected the wrong icon, fixed now, sorry. Gatoclass (talk) 10:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Garry Schyman

  • Comment: The quote is in the "Musical style and influences" section, and is sourced to an interview he gave recently.

5x expanded by PresN (talk). Nominated by PresN (talk) at 20:01, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Verified. Thanks for the directions :) Gatoclass (talk) 12:20, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Brian Jennings (journalist)

Josef Maria Eder and Paul Friedländer and Carl von Than

added another chemist to the hook.--Stone (talk) 21:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Harold Pogue and Perry Graves

    • Symbol question.svg Length and date are fine, but how does this hook fit in with the source mentioning All-Americans as early as 1901? Bradjamesbrown (talk) 10:29, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • The UI All-Americans prior to 1914 were not "first-team" All-Americans. They were either second- or third-team selections. This was stated in the articles, but not clear in the hook. I've now added "first-team" to the hook. Cbl62 (talk) 19:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Frederick Bradlee

Frederick Bradlee

Laurence Irving (set designer)

Alcabala

  • Alacabala needs to be in italics per WP:MOSTEXT since it's a word being as a word.--Carabinieri (talk) 04:42, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Bacon Deluxe

Wendy's Double Bacon Deluxe hamburger

ALT: ...that the Bacon Deluxe sandwich from Wendy's topped a list of the five most unhealthful gourmet burgers sold by national fast food restaurant chains in the United States?
  • I am so going to have one of these for lunch tomorrow. Happy NPD everybody. Drmies (talk) 04:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Fast food chains should be sued for what they sell to people. Both hooks verified, image verified as CCA. Gatoclass (talk) 14:23, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


Funeral practices and burial customs in the Philippines

Hanging coffins at Sagada Province, Philippines

  • Symbol question.svg Article sourced mostly through ref [1] which is SunStar Davao (Regional/Provincial) news paper (hardly reliable). Ref [5] is extracted from a non-notable magazine. Can you add other sources that's a bit more reliable? --TitanOne (talk) 18:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Don't get me wrong I've read and recall this process from history books; but lets keep up with Wikipedia standards. I would then suggest an editor who's not from the country (WP:COI) verify this nomination. --TitanOne (talk) 18:16, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
More sources have been added as requested. There were a lot but I selected the more official/reliable ones that I could find. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:42, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
In addition, I am also finally able to incorporate the general references into the text. Thanks again. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Length, date and references verified. Article now shows notability. Other editors please feel free to examine. --TitanOne (talk) 12:55, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


South Fork Clackamas River

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg Length, date and sources verified. Hook offline source accepted in good faith. --TitanOne (talk) 13:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

St. Augustine's Catholic Church (Napoleon, Ohio); and First Presbyterian Church (Napoleon, Ohio)

A multicolored stone church with a red terracotta roof

  • ALT PHOTO St. Augustine's Catholic Church, Napoleon.jpg [[File:St. Augustine's Catholic Church, Napoleon.jpg|100x100px|St. Augustine's Catholic Church|alt=A brick Gothic Revival church with a tall spire]]
    Sorry that both photos have cloudy skies; the day I got them was the only time I've ever been to this city. Nyttend (talk) 00:40, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Priscus (general)

SS Empire Candida

  • Symbol question.svg Hook fact not currently within the article Calmer Waters 04:26, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I've added details of tank's preservation to article. Mjroots (talk) 06:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Date, length, and hook verified. Calmer Waters 23:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Postmasters General of Ireland

List of New York Legislature members expelled or censured

I notice Schermerhorn was never actually censured, in which case I don't think he should be in the list. Gatoclass (talk) 14:43, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Done. Okay. I removed that entry. Cirt (talk) 16:38, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Verified Hook and article look great. J Milburn (talk) 14:06, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Outer Trial Bank

Outer Trial Bank, a man-made island situated in The Wash, approximately 2 miles off the East Anglian coast in the UK


Kennaquhair (horse)

List of Sri Lankan Test cricket records, List of international cricket centuries by Mahela Jayawardene

A man standing on a cricket pith, wearing white cricket kit and blue helmet leans forward to play the ball with a bat held out in front.

5x expanded by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 06:08, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

  • I'd prefer both articles to go together, but I'll leave the decision for the reviewer. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 04:45, 3 March 2010 (UTC)


Harelle

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Statement that the revolt was called "Harelle" is unsourced. Article also needs a copyedit, I did one section but it needs more. Gatoclass (talk) 04:33, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Muroid molar

  • Comment: The true number is considerably higher, but most if not all other nomenclatures are for smaller groups only, and any definite number would probably be OR. This hook is supported by Reig's explicit statement that eleven nomenclatures had been proposed before him, the twelfth he proposed himself, and the cited statement that at least for the muroids there are other nomenclatures.

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 01:31, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Haramain High Speed Rail project

Articles created/expanded on February 28

Majorca Sheepdog

A black, short haired dog standing on a rock

  • Comment: Bejnar wrote this page, (page was going to be reported for copyvio, but he wrote an article on the dog, independent from the copyvio)

Created by Bejnar (talk). Nominated by NativeForeigner (talk) at 01:04, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Alexander McLeod

Wyandanch (sachem)

Emil Stang (born 1882)

Vic Halligan

Nebraska All-American Vic Halligan


Balsam Mountain (Ulster County, New York)

Balsam Mountain.jpg

Vernon Prichard

Vernon Prichard
  • It doesn't actually say in the article that Prichard served under Ike in Italy. Gatoclass (talk) 13:52, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Since Ike was the Supreme Commander of all US forces in the European Theater, Gen. Prichard as commander of the 1st Infantry in Italy was serving under and for Ike. Is your concern that Prichard was not a "direct report" to Ike? That is correct as a matter of technical chain-of-command, but the comments from Ike about his prediliction for selecting football players for command positions, identifying Prichard as one of his generals who "measured up" during the war, and the personal correspondence between the two men, partially reflected in the article, also supports the statement that Prichard was commanding the 1st Infantry for Ike. If you still think the wording is problematic, let me know if there's an alternate phrasing that you think would be better. Cbl62 (talk) 19:54, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Personally, I think the football analogies in the article are overdone, but I'm not going to quibble about that. My point is that if Prichard was a subordinate to Ike, that should be stated and cited in the article per our normal rules for the hook. Gatoclass (talk) 08:51, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Tiger Raj Singh

Banksia novae-zelandiae

  • Comment: before anyone notes about lack of inline referencing, the whole newly-described species is from one recent paper. I guess we can tag each paragraph..what do folsk think?

Created by Hesperian (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 22:58, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Yes, I think you should tag the paragraphs - with page numbers if possible. Gatoclass (talk) 13:54, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Banksia laevigata subsp. laevigata

a grey-yellow oval-shaped bloom which looks like a tennis ball

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg Verified, image verified as CCA. Gatoclass (talk) 13:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


French battleship Jean Bart (1911)

A large grey warship with three funnels and two masts steaming on a placid sea

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 19:23, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Regional minister

  • Symbol possible vote.svg 150 chars too short. Gatoclass (talk) 17:08, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Now expanded - should be able to do some more in next day or two. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Edmund Evans

"The House that Jack Built". Illustrated by Caldecott; engraved and printed by Evans.

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Verified, but surely you could find a PD image to go with the hook? Gatoclass (talk) 04:52, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Image added. Does it need a caption? Truthkeeper88 (talk) 05:16, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Yes, it should have a caption, and also an ''(example pictured)'' in the hook. Gatoclass (talk) 05:57, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
I put the "example pictured" in the hook, but you will still need to add a caption. Gatoclass (talk) 06:01, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Caption added. Thanks for fixing the hook. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 13:38, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

David Stout

or, highlighting more the bizarre than the noteworthy:
... that ice and snow storms figure prominently in the mystery novels about violent crimes that New York Times veteran David Stout wrote in his spare time? --Ibn Battuta (talk) 22:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Verified original with a tweak to the hook to remove ambiguity. Alt hook is not very well supported and not very interesting IMO. Gatoclass (talk) 05:04, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

2009–10 PBA Philippine Cup Finals

Frente Popular (Goa)

List of number-one albums of 2008 (México)

Greene v Associated Newspapers Ltd

George Peek

George Nelson Peek, first Administrator of the U.S. Agricultural Adjustment Administration, on the cover of Time magazine on Nov. 6, 1933.

  • ...described by whom?--Wetman (talk) 07:17, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
  • It's in the article, which is enough ("one reporter", from Pittsburgh). But some don't like quotes in hooks. Johnbod (talk) 04:11, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
If it's just some reporter, might be better to find another hook, as the opinion might well be marginal. Gatoclass (talk) 05:16, 1 March 2010 (UTC)


Wedding cord

Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:35, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Sorry to halt the approval however I've checked the sources and they all seem to be sourced through wedding blog/shop/specialty store (weddingunitycoins.com, filipino-dating.com , etc.) hardly any of which are notable citations. I would need to raise issues on the reliability of the sources. --TitanOne (talk) 13:04, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

::Nom withdrawn. - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Strike comment. Will let you decide on this. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:11, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

German submarine U-162 (1941)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg No problems, ready to go. Moonraker2 (talk) 23:04, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
  • This hook seems to imply that there was something unusual about the fact that three destroyers took part in the sinking of a single Uboat, the 'it took three...' especially implies that it was something to do with U-162's resilience. It was fairly common for a number of warships to join together, sometimes with air support as well, to prosecute an attack on a submerged Uboat to maximise the chances of sinking it. I'd prefer a hook that doesn't focus on this as if it were an extraordinary occurrence. How about:
I like the last nom of yours Benea. But if it's going to be a double nom then you need to get credit was well.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 00:40, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on February 27

British Library, Add. 14448

Gloria in excelsis Deo, BWV 191

  • Umm, that is extremely common and extends back to the earliest period of Christianity. --Eusebeus (talk) 22:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • The fact about the early Christians having used that symbol is true, but to mention it also in the hook would make it too long, right? Also it is not part of this article, the first one about a Bach cantata with the new format for the article name, adding the number to the German (or, as in this one and only case, Latin) title. - I doubt, by the way, that the hook fact is so commonly known. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Trema orientalis

leaves of Trema orientalis


Paul Des Jardien

Paul Des Jardien

Charley Barrett

Charley Barrett


Stan Pennock

Stan Pennock


Huntington Hardwick

"Tack" Hardwick
  • Note: If the "(pictured)" is not included, the hook comes in under 200 characters. Cbl62 (talk) 07:27, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


Ola Bauer

Greek Orthodox Church of the Annunciation

The spring situated at the end of the subterranean chamber in the church in modern times

Friary Church of St Francis and St Anthony, Crawley

Front view of a brown- and red-brick building with five steps up to a round-arched window, above which are five narrow, tall rectangular windows.  A shallow tiled roof rises behind.  The steps are flanked by black railings and low brick walls.  Cars are parked on both sides.


William McEwan

Front of a two storey Edwardian house, with a gravel approach, surrounded by ball-shaped plants on grass


Excubitors

Treaty of Altranstädt (1707)

Treaty of Altranstädt (1706), Treaty of Thorn (1709)

Augustus II the Strong of Poland


Niall McCrudden

Ronald Levy

  • Comment: "ever" is redundant, you are either first or you are not. – ukexpat (talk) 22:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
removed. Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 22:40, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Pepper v Hart

Tanner Springs Park

Tanner Springs Park

Fort Conger

Oryzomys albiventer

Oryzomys albiventer

  • Comment: Suggestions for a better-phrased, or even entirely different, hook welcome. The source for this hook is Carleton and Arroyo-Cabrales 2009 [3], p. 115.

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 03:07, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 26

South Park Blocks

Tuanaitau F. Tuia

The American Samoan Fono.

Burleigh Cruikshank and Haps Benfer

Director Park

Andrew Birch

Henry Barron (judge)

  • Whose Supreme Court? Gatoclass (talk) 13:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I removed the pipe, so it should be clear now, and clarified the first divorce part too. – ukexpat (talk) 22:19, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
  • The article is poorly written, with lots of simple sentences in the format of "He did x. He did y." It reads almost like a "See Spot run" elementary reader. I think you can do better than that. Gatoclass (talk) 08:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • including "... in the same year" is a bit confusing IMO, since the hook doesn't mention a date anywhere. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 10:38, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Islamic marital practices

A Filipino Tausug lady performing the traditional pangalay dance.


Nom withdrawn. - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Administration (British football)

  • Comment: The link in the hook leads to a disambiguation page and should be corrected to the Administration (football) article. Other than that, Symbol confirmed.svg length, date and references verified. Timbouctou (talk) 23:20, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Now fixed. Thanks for pointing that out, and thanks for verifying the hook. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 23:29, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
ALT: ... that English football clubs entering administration have fewer points deducted in the Premier League than in the Football League because they play fewer games? - grammar, clarity, located. Could be made a little clearer maybe. Does the article cover Scottish football too? Johnbod (talk) 04:06, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment: Whichever hook is selected, it should be "fewer" rather than "less". Not only is this grammatically correct, but it's also a pet peeve of mine. – ukexpat (talk) 22:23, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Yes, I've amended the first hook with respect to that. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 18:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Po James

Created by Eagles247 (talk). Self nom at 20:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Turning Home

Xeros Ltd.

  • Comment: The article reads like an advertisement, but it may be just my opinion. Timbouctou (talk) 05:25, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. I have tried to make it less so with wording like "claims to", "attempts", etc. It is still not perfect- if someone else could help, I would appreciate it. I still think it is a good canidate for DYK, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by E2eamon (talkcontribs) 05:40, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Slightly improved article, seems to show some notability through 3 external sources. --TitanOne (talk) 10:11, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
With recent changes by Titan One, could someone re-evaluate this page for DYK?E2eamon (talk) 14:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • ALT1:..that the cleaning technology that Xeros Ltd. is designing, has been developed over a 30 year period? --TitanOne (talk) 15:59, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • ALT2:..that the cleaning technology that Xeros Ltd. is designing, has been developed over a 30 year period by Leeds University professor Stephen Burkinshaw? --TitanOne (talk) 15:59, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg at least not in its current state. The article still needs copyedit (e.g. it says the technology is being developed, but later that it has been developed), however, the major point is this: the article is about commercial work in progress, thus featuring it would look like promotion of that company. An article about the principles behind the technology might be acceptable, but this would require renaming and major rewrite. Materialscientist (talk) 12:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree that it's a little spammy. It also has some unverified claims and speculation/original research. – ukexpat (talk) 22:29, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

J.W. Knapp Company Building

  • I listed this as a new article, but it probably should be listed as an expansion. It was spun off from J.W. Knapp Company, by Nyttend, which I had expanded considerably in the last couple of days. Prior to the expansion, the parent article contained a single sentence relating to the building. The spun-off article far exceeds 5-fold expansion of the relevant text.[4] Fladrif (talk) 18:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • If this is approved, I shouldn't be created as the author, since Fladrif did all the work. Nyttend (talk) 23:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 25

John Virginius Bennes

Geiser Grand Hotel


Gaius Iunius Bubulcus Brutus

List of Academy Award Winning Families

Unfortunate events in the front seats of the ring of Madrid, and the death of the Mayor of Torrejón

List of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

Created by Mbz1 (talk), Avenue (talk),Mike Cline (talk) and Nableezy (talk) . Self nom by user:Mbz1 at 20:39, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Oppose This article has been recently recreated even though it was deleted in the past. I have resubmitted it for AfD. I think it's better not to have an article listed for DYK while it's unclear whether it will be kept on Wikipedia or not. --BomBom (talk) 03:49, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
You well aware I have only 5 days to submit the article for DYK. I consider the vote unfair.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Comment I changed my oppose vote because I understand it can be frustrating for the nominator to have his article declared ineligible after spending a vast amount of time on it. It's up to the administrators to decide whether or not the article should appear on the main page. As far as DYK rules are concerned, please try to find a better source than about.com to back up the 22% statistic. Once this is sorted out, I'm ready to support. --BomBom (talk) 19:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I did.--Mbz1 (talk) 22:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
  • COMMENT: Articles that are likely battlefields for edit wars should not be featured on the main page. Pls have your differences sorted out soon. --74.13.128.28 (talk) 07:42, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
As I have explained earlier I have only 5 days to nominate at article for DYK. If the article is kept, I am sure no edit warring would be going on there (there's nothing to edit war over), and besides we have some feature articles with rather bad edit warring going on. It does not make them any less valuable.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:50, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
  • It should be noted that it looks like the outcome of the AFD is very likely to be keep pretty overwhelmingly. Hence there's no reason not to promote it provided other standard DYK criteria are met (which they appear to be now that reliable sources have been added). But the list nomination/title in the hook needs to be bolded.radek (talk) 22:52, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I hope, I've done it right, if I did not, please do feel free to change it. Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 22:57, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Changed it slightly.radek (talk) 02:50, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg We need better refs for 22% - of three provided, one is about.com, another is by M. Schreiber published by Schreiber Pub. and little is known about the third one (www.jinfo.org) Materialscientist (talk) 11:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Three references are provided, one of which is from published book. I have nominated quite a few DYK before, and they were confirmed although never before I supported them with the references as solid as the references for this DYK.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:48, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Comment The number four reference is added.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:15, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Here's three more refs for the 162 and the 22 numbers: [5], [6], [7]</ref>

References are better, though sill not bullet-proof (@ Mbz - read my comment on those books .. another problem is that the sources are from Israel-biased sources, thus COI). We'll have to wait for AFD, which will likely be closed as keep. Materialscientist (talk) 04:54, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Materialscientist. I would not have called the sources "Israel-biased sources". Jewish library and Jewish encyclopedia not necessarily have bias towards Israel, they are sources for Jewish history. Anyway I added alternative hook. --Mbz1 (talk) 17:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Slug (Passengers song)

Don Quijote in Shinjuku at night.jpg


Barbarian II: The Dungeon of Drax

Eadweard Muybridge's photographs of a man's leap over a hurdle

5x expansion from 1170 bytes (203 words) to 12 kilobytes (1926 words).[8] Jappalang (talk) 22:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


Russian Standard

  • Symbol delete vote.svg The prose has not been expanded 5x (3120/1675=1.8x). --Bruce1eetalk 15:35, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Kallina House, Hönigsberg & Deutsch

  • "Secession style" is the clearer, more usual designation, emphasizing the alternative salon and not the act of secession.--Wetman (talk) 04:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I'm glad you pointed that out. I've made a mistake when I was writing the hook, it should read "Secessionist-style", like it says in the referenced quote and in the article. Timbouctou (talk) 04:49, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Robert Kolesar

Jan de Jong

Dams in Burma

Warren, Michigan

  • "Is" equates the whole city with its Polish neighborhood. Not intended, I think. "Includes"? "contains"? --Wetman (talk) 04:38, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • What about "has one of the largest ..."? --Bruce1eetalk 09:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg had 9030 prose before expansion and now haves 11090. Would need over 45000 prose to 5x expand this article. Calmer Waters 21:51, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 24

Kemper Nomland

Gächinger Kantorei, Bach-Collegium Stuttgart

suggesting to post it on the composer's 325th birthday, celebrated (Old Style Date) 21 March. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

John Brennan (American football)

George Fielding Eliot

Augochlora leptoloba

  • Not very interesting. How about a hook re the species being known from only one specimen? Gatoclass (talk) 08:04, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
I have avoided that hook as it is applicable to almost all the extinct insect taxa articles i have been writing. Out of curiosity what is not interesting about the fuzzy hook?--Kevmin (talk) 20:23, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
What is not interesting about it is that it doesn't make clear that this is an exceptional characteristic for a bee. How do I know that all bees don't have short hairs on their legs? Gatoclass (talk) 08:40, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Houserville Site

... that Early Archaic peoples used the Houserville Site in Pennsylvania ten millennia ago?

Revised hook; I misread the source for the original statement. Nyttend (talk) 02:50, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Svetlana Shkolina, Meike Kröger

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Not a terrific hook, but there isn't really an alt hook in there that I can see. Gatoclass (talk) 08:11, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I added another article and tweaked the hook, so this will have to be reviewed again. Geschichte (talk) 18:26, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg New double nom verified. Nice going :) Gatoclass (talk) 08:47, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I and Rjanag have concerns about low numbers here: 2.00 was cleared around 1980 (at least I saw an official 1981 indoors result above 2.00). This hook would sound strange as we all expect progress and personal one might not impress the audience. Maybe convert 2.00 numbers in terms of medals in the hook? Materialscientist (talk) 05:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I don't understand the last question. Geschichte (talk) 08:26, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • You have read that Kröger has not won any medals, right (except silver and bronze on national level). Furthermore I don't quite see how 2.00 metres is a low result: in reading lists of medalists in Olympic Games, Worlds and World Indoors, it becomes clear that 2.00 normally is good enough for silver or even gold. Geschichte (talk) 20:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Oh dear, they (women) apparently jump even lower now than in 1980s .. No hard feeling at all, but the hook does read as a personal training progress, which I'm not happy to have on the main page. To me, it is like stretching the DYK notability acceptance a bit too far. Materialscientist (talk) 00:07, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • That could be to do with tighter restrictions on technology - don't know much about high jumping but I seem to recall that certain types of poles were banned a while back. Gatoclass (talk) 11:02, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Blimey, I can tell you do not know much about jumping - you are confusing polevaulting and high jumping !?! LOL. Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:56, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Gyromancer

  • Comment: 5x expanded; copied out of a sandbox today after being worked on yesterday and today. --PresN 18:44, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by PresN (talk). Nominated by PresN (talk) at 18:44, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg I believe there is a big difference between bring up an idea as a "joke" and as "half-jokingly". To say it was a joke would imply that there was no real intent on the idea, as it appears that there was in both the article and source. Calmer Waters 00:27, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
  • How about this then? --PresN 15:27, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Paul I, 1st Prince Esterházy of Galántha

Paul I, 1st Prince Esterházy of Galántha

  • I have added "(pictured)". Moonraker2 (talk) 23:44, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


The Cherryh Odyssey

Articles created/expanded on February 23

List of National Basketball Association season rebounding leaders

Mujir al-Din al-'Ulaymi

Tomb of Mujir al-Din

Condition of averages

Reduced payout


Gertrude Simmons Burlingham

  • Good for her... academia is overrated... but the article doesnt say she taught high school biology, only that she never taught at the college level.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:57, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
    • The full sentence in the first paragraph of the bio section clearly says "From 1898 to her retirement in 1934, she taught high-school biology in Binghamton and Brooklyn, but despite earning a Ph.D. from Columbia University in 1908, never taught at college level." Am I missing something obvious there? Circéus (talk) 16:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
      • I think Thelmadatter is saying that the hook makes it sounds like all she ever did in life was teach high school biology (it's somewhat ambiguous). Whereas the source simply talks about teaching. Jujutacular T · C 20:14, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
        • Oooh, I see the problem. How 'bout "only ever thaught at high-school level" ? or more bluntly "was never hired at any university"? Circéus (talk) 19:39, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

George Matthew Snelson, Mayor of Palmerston North

  • Comment: Two new articles.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 18:40, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

  • 74.13.128.28 please don't start this again, there's nothing wrong with saying that he is regarded as the father of the city in the original hook because it is sourced in the article. Only thing wrong with the nomination is that Mayor of Palmerston North is about 400 characters too short for DYK. -- BigDom 13:39, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
I've added about 450 characters to Mayor of Palmerston North, so it should now be long enough for DYK. That means that ALT1 can now have the second title in bold, too (shown as ALT2 below). That said, I much prefer the original hook, as being the first mayor and being regarded as the father of the city goes together quite well. Schwede66 10:09, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
The Mayor of Palmerston North article is still about 50 characters of readable prose too short. Bullet points and lists are not counted as part of the prose. -- BigDom 19:09, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Added 90 characters of readable prose. So this time, it should be fine. Schwede66 17:34, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment: This is the original hook with the country inserted - this addresses the "where is the city" question above. Schwede66 17:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Sava Mutkurov

Sava Mutkurov

T in the Park 2010

Variation of Trusts Act 1958

  • Symbol question.svg Nominator and creator/expander info? BejinhanTalk 11:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Eddie "Guitar" Burns

Nesagapostemon

Nesagapostemon moronei

Cream Holdings Ltd v Banerjee and the Liverpool Post and Echo Ltd

Articles created/expanded on February 22

M-52 (Michigan highway

  • ALT1:... that southbound M-52 in downtown Adrian, Michigan carries both the north and southbound directions of the US 223 business loop in town?
  • Comment: I've delayed this nomination a bit. There is a map being made to illustrate this strange highway routing that will be added to the article shortly. The first revision of this map is at File:Adrian MI road map.svg, but it will be updated to zoom in on the one-way street routings better before it added to the article.

5x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Self nom at 06:30, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Pygmy whitefish

  • Comment: Not a very good hook, but all I can get, at least so far. If I find something better I'll post it here.

5x expanded by Innotata (talk). Self nom at 15:54, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Simon Degge

Ferdinand Julian Egeberg, Egebergs Ærespris

Light Attack/Armed Reconnaissance

  • Does "looking for" mean "shopping for", "trying to find sth lost/misplaced" or "hunting down and planning to destroy"? Pls rephrase. --74.13.125.24 (talk) 06:41, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Replaced "looking for" with "procuring". Is this phrasing acceptable? -SidewinderX (talk) 14:36, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 21

Sri Lankan national referendum, 1982

Sharafat, East Jerusalem

Comment—good expansion overall, but there are a few problems from the main page. For one, the article is full of dubious POV (some WP:REDFLAG) statements not always attributed to reliable secondary sources. At least one is clearly incorrect. Strong and emotive language is sometimes used where unnecessary. I will bring up the issues on talk in more detail as indeed there is a lot to talk about. Hopefully this is addressed before it goes to the main page. —Ynhockey (Talk) 11:58, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
The article was not expanded, its brand new. I addressed the concerns you raised on the talk page, and made some minor changes. Even without them, none of concerns you raised should hold up the DYK nomination. Tiamuttalk 15:20, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Carl E. Taylor

Carl E. Taylor, in 1936.

  • (removed approval check, see below) Looks good, thank you. Jujutacular T · C 22:54, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


  • Ahhh it looked to good to be true. At AfC we ussualy get really bad articles, this one looked exceptional, and the refs I checked worked out. Withdrawn. Gosox(55)(55) 21:16, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

José Lázaro Galdiano

  • Suggest "by his death in 1947" --> "by the time of his death in 1947", 'coz I don't think he amassed the collection by dying. --74.13.125.66 (talk) 04:56, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Tweaked, thanks. Ceoil sláinte 20:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Pellia epiphylla

Flag of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern

The state flag of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern


On reflexion, an improvement. (Thanks.) On another note, there should be time by the normal channels, but I would like to get this into this round of the WIkiCup. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 22:11, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
  • There are separate state navyes in Germany? Never heard that. Very much doubtful. 213.161.172.98 (talk) 11:20, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I tracked down the source; it mentions police boats as an example. Gimmetrow 00:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Tofiri Kibuuka

Alternately: ...that Tofiri Kibuuka of Uganda, later a successful Paralympian, was one of the first blind men to reach the summit of Mount Kilimanjaro?
Or, unless it's too long: ...that Tofiri Kibuuka, one of the first blind men to reach the summit of Mount Kilimanjaro, was the first African to compete at the Winter Paralympic Games? Aridd (talk) 12:43, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Socialist Left Party (Norway)

  • I don't get what's unusual about this fact. Parties are merged all the time.--Carabinieri (talk) 11:27, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg 210 character hook. Per DYK guidelines, hooks should be of length under 200 characters. Arctic Night 14:07, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
  • This new hook is somewhat WP:WEASELish, i.e. it raises the question "accused by whom?"--Carabinieri (talk) 14:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

American Enlightenment

  • Comment: Still a bit rough around the edges, but overall it's pretty good, especially for a new editor. Thoughts? NW (Talk) 03:07, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by Tediouspedant (talk). Nominated by NuclearWarfare (talk) at 03:07, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

  • "Considered" by who? By wikipedia? --74.13.127.98 (talk) 04:54, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Considered by many historians of the history of ideas. For example Prof Kerry Walters "Revolutionary Deists: Early America's Rational Infidels" and Robbins, Caroline. "The Lifelong Education of Thomas Paine (1737-1809): Some Reflections upon His Acquaintance among Books." Proceedings of the American Philosophical Society 127.3 (1983): 135–42. For many more references see The Age of Reason --Tediouspedant (talk) 14:02, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Thats a pretty disparaging comment 74.13.127.98. Please make your comments straight forward when reviewing a hook to keep and encyclopedic atmosphere. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 06:22, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
I think this hook is pretty vague. What is a "defining link"? "Considered" by whom?--Carabinieri (talk) 11:32, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
I don't see how the comment by the anonymous user above is disparaging. I think he's referring to WP:WEASEL.--Carabinieri (talk) 11:50, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
You could take our the word "considered" and the hook would be fine. In fact, that is how it is in the article. NW (Talk) 16:12, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
The IP did not need to be condescending and should have been straight forward, basic civility. The user is a self-described "new editor" so there is no reason to take that tone while reviewing a hook. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 21:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
condescending? How? No such intent at all. Just wanna be brief. BTW, NW is an admin, not a new user. --74.13.125.66 (talk) 04:10, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
"'Considered' by who? By wikipedia?" is not needed, state the issue in a way that is more straight forward. It reads as condescending because obviously not Wikipedia. Also, the comment "...but overall it's pretty good, especially for a new editor." The new editor part made me think that the editor was new. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 04:48, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Wasn't referring to myself there. I was referring to User:Tediouspedant, who is indeed a new user. NW (Talk) 19:56, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Putting these "considered as...", "regarded as...", "hailed as..." opinions/statements on Wikipedia's main page gives the wrong impression that it's Wikipedia's opinion/position. Let's keep them off the main page. --74.13.125.66 (talk) 05:08, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
That's what I mean't, straight forward. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 05:27, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Removing "considered" will make it sound as if we know it to be true without any possibility of a doubt. Since there's room for debate on the subject, we mustn't remove this word. We've often approved statements of this sort at DYK; for example, the hook for the Dunns Pond Mound reads "that the Dunns Pond Mound in Ohio may have been used for Native American burials for nine centuries?" Nyttend (talk) 22:05, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Maybe a simple rewording would work: "Did you know that the link between the European Enlightenment and the American Enlightenment is considered to have been provided by Thomas Paine in his The Age of Reason?

Articles created/expanded on February 20

McKenny Union

McKenny Union during the 2006-2007 remodeling

  • Comment: I think McKenny Union was also one of the first unions (maybe the first, I don't know) open to men and women, but I haven't been able to adequately source that claim and didn't want the article to miss DYK. If I find it in time, I'll add it to the hook.

Created by Cmadler (talk). Nominated by Cmadler (talk) at 20:17, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

James Arthur Flesher

ALT1 works for me - thanks for the suggestion! To comply with the DYK rules, one of the references would have to be shifted immediately after this fact, but that's easy to do. If some reviewer would like me to do so, please let me know (I'll keep an eye on this page). Schwede66 07:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Julian Lawrence

Michel Hansenne

Willie O'Dea affidavit affair

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Length and date OK, but I cannot find a proper citation for the "fictional brothel". Neither can I find any mention of an "audio recording" of the brothel, only of an interview. PleaseStand (talk) 05:18, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg This is an article that by its very nature focuses on a single negative aspect of a living person. I don't think we should feature such articles on the Main Page. Ucucha 08:01, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. It's a well written and well sourced article, but not one we can put up on the main page. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 08:05, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Melisa Cantiveros

  • The length and date are fine but DYK generally requires one inline citation per paragraph. Is there any chance of you adding some more references to the article? -- BigDom 18:58, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg Where in the article does it say that? Also I'd like to point out that most of the online sources came from the same company that produced the television show. Please expand inline citations from other reliable sources. --TitanOne (talk) 19:40, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Several issues --> I also checked with the article Pinoy Big Brother: Double Up where most of the article created is already existing on the summary sections (Week on week). Cannot determine the exact prose size but the Melisa Cantiveros#Pinoy Big Brother: Double Up section is not new content. The article is not referenced correctly citing 2 sources from a blog and furthermore citing source as Wikipedia itself. --TitanOne (talk) 19:48, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Did copy edit, lacks verifiable sources and some issues with sourcing through sites which were owned by the same entity who produced the show. Per WP:COI. --TitanOne (talk) 20:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 19

Minuscule 642

  • Could you expand the hook a bit? Who is Joseph Dacre Carlyle? What is a Minuscule? Why are these scraps of writing important? Do they differ somehow from other versions of the New Testament? Abductive (reasoning) 08:29, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I apologize in advance as I assume you have a great knowledge of the intricacies of the many Minuscules that you work delinquently diligently creating articles on. With that said, the article states that the manuscript was brought from the monastery to England by Carlyle, not purchased by him. It also states that he was a professor of Arabic, not an English orientalist (someone who translated the writings of 'the Orient' into English if I'm correct). He may be both, but as of now is not stated in the nominated article. Either the hook or article would need to be clarified to address the facts presented in the offline reference and introduced in the hook. Calmer Waters 07:45, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Two quick points: you probably mean diligently, not delinquently; and Orientalist appears to be a perfectly fine description for a professor of Arabic. Carlyle's article also uses the description. Ucucha 07:52, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Yes, I had meant diligently and corrected. Typo, no need for the dictionary links ;) Calmer Waters 08:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Tickle Cock Bridge

  • The article only says that one person thought that might be the reason for the name. Perhaps something like "it is believed Tickle Cock Bridge..." -- BigDom 21:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
  • That one person is the only local historian who has researched the derivation of the name, and the conclusion is attributed to him. "It is believed ..." would simply prompt the question "believed by whom"? --Malleus Fatuorum 21:14, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
  • ... or are you talking about changing the hook to "It is believed ..."? If so, I agree with that and I've done it. --Malleus Fatuorum 21:16, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Ah, that was me not making myself clear – I simply meant changing the hook. -- BigDom 21:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Can we have 'people' instead of 'boys and girls': boys and boys might just as well have got up to such shenanigans ...82.32.238.139 (talk) 16:37, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
I've added the word 'that' back to the beginning of the hook, as required. Remember, hooks are the latter part of a sentence that begins, "Did you know...," thus the requirement. Marylanderz (talk) 21:56, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
"Did you know it is believed that ..." works perfectly well. --Malleus Fatuorum 15:14, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
That they were males and females, not just "people", is significant. --Malleus Fatuorum 15:12, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
How about "beneath" instead of "underneath", the three syllables are a tad cumbersome? --Fred the Oyster (talk) 18:47, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
That seems like a reasonable suggestion, changed. --Malleus Fatuorum 20:00, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • ALT1 ... that the Tickle Cock Bridge pedestrian underpass was built in 1890 and is used by 50,000 pedestrians each week?--Esemono (talk) 03:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • You win first prize for the most boring hook I've ever seen. I absolutely reject that suggestion. --Malleus Fatuorum 18:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • That seems like a definite ->-> Whoosh! to me. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 18:48, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Wow, you've managed to somehow miss the important fact that the bridge is notable mainly because children played doctors and nurses down there. Parrot of Doom 19:12, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
I wonder if they were tipped off? --Fred the Oyster (talk) 21:04, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
How about, purely to make middle Americans sit up and take note of course, Tickle Cock Bridge was so-named because of its popularity as a venue for mutual masturbation. That should get it noticed I would have thought! --Fred the Oyster (talk) 01:35, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
When one of these hooks is approved, how about reserving it for April Fool's Day? Imzadi1979 (talk) 15:41, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I second April Fools Day.--Found5dollar (talk) 15:50, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Alt3 is the strongest, imo, just work in the phrase lovers lane into the page. Never head of the phrase 'monkey run', its a horrible turn, but I like it. Ceoil sláinte 16:43, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
ALT3 is nice, but I'm afraid it's not accurate. I've added an explanatory note on the meaning of the British slang term "monkey run": "streets where groups of young people paraded up and down, usually at weekends, in the hope of 'clicking' with somebody". There was no impropriety, and certainly nothing like what goes on down "lovers lanes", despite the rather bawdy name. That's why I proposed the rather ambiguous "because of what young men and women got up to beneath it". --Malleus Fatuorum 00:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
ALT5 ...that Tickle Cock Bridge has been described as frightening to walk through? Calmer Waters 02:47, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I think the April Fools suggestion is an extremely good one. Raul654 (talk) 02:50, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go IMHO. I like Calmer Water's hook and If we use this one, I vote that it be saved for April 1st.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 23:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Jennie M. Forehand

  • Anything non-negative, please? --74.13.127.98 (talk) 23:39, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Have to concur with the IP; I'm against putting negative information about a BLP on the main page; especially when that person is currently standing for re-election. (Why not just "owns her own antique store." full stop.)? Bradjamesbrown (talk) 13:08, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Good point, didn't intend for it to read negatively, was just focusing on the contrast. This alt is fine:
ALT1... that Maryland State Senator Jennie M. Forehand owns her own antique store? Marylanderz (talk) 13:12, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Politician owns own business? Stop the presses! Daniel Case (talk) 00:21, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Also, given the age dynamics in the race, I'm worried the hook could be taken as a sort of backhand insult about her age. Marylanderz (talk) 23:26, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
This hook with Kagan is currently on Template:Did you know/Queue/6, but without Forehand. --74.14.23.117 (talk) 06:38, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
  • ALT1... that in 2010, Jennie M. Forehand sponsored a bill limiting the ability of judges to sentence criminals to time in local jails if those jails aren't reimbursed by the state

Articles created/expanded on February 16

Gita Sahgal

  • The article states that was because of her opposition to the charity's links with Moazzam Begg? Jhbuk (talk) 18:37, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Yes, the hook above does not appear to be a fair summary of the article. Try, "... that Gita Sahgal was suspended from her employment at Amnesty International after publicly criticising her employer for its association with ex-Guantanamo detainee and Taliban supporter Moazzam Begg." If it's not too long. Or ignore it entirely; DYK isn't for pushing the issue of the day, it's for highlighting new articles. - DustFormsWords (talk) 03:56, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I did add a "recentism" tag to the article a couple of times but the principal author keeps removing it. Gatoclass (talk) 11:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
  • ALT1 ... that Gita Sahgal is a big campaigner against viewing rape as primarily about spoils of war or sexual gratification, instead believing groups use rape as a tool to redraw ethnic lines?
  • ALT2 ... that Gita Sahgal was the producer of "Tying the Knot" a film about speaking out against forced marriages yet is not against arranged marriages?
  • ALT3 ... that Gita Sahgal is the daughter of novelist Nayantara Sahgal and also the great-niece of former Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru -- Esemono (talk) 10:01, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Comment: age, length, hook ref all check out for ALT2. I sense reluctance to let this one through in part berhaps because of POV and structure issues in the article. The article has changed since Gatoclass's comments, though in some ways it has changed for the worse. I think the 'Reactions' section may not have benefited from expansion. But it ticks the basic boxes. I'd want other input before a decision. hamiltonstone (talk) 03:33, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

Articles created/expanded for International Women's Day (March 8)

Ragna Nielsen

  • Would it be better to say that she was the first to headmaster a secondary school? As worded it appears to read that she was the first headmaster for a secondary school rather than the first of any of the secondary schools in Norway. Calmer Waters 04:15, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Agree with your comment, and suggest this alternative hook:
  • ALT1: ... that Ragna Nielsen was the first woman to headmaster a secondary school in Norway?
  • I am a bit uncertain whether the translation of the term (Norwegian: "gymnas") into "secondary school" is specific enough. The "gymnas" is/was a school qualifying for university study, not for a specific trade or profession. Oceanh (talk) 17:06, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Michele S. Jones

Command Sergeant Major Michele S. Jones

  • Save for Women's Day on March 8th? --74.13.127.98 (talk) 04:55, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Actually, the source states that she was the first woman in the Army Reserve to attain such a rank. Gatoclass (talk) 04:57, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Yes, it says that. The next reference located here says she was "the first woman to serve as the CSM of any of the Army's Components, Active or Reserve." That is the reference I am using for the hook. Basically, she was the first CSM of the U.S. Army, but at that time she was not regular Army, she was Army Reserve. The hook stands if you consider the U.S. Army Reserve to be a component of the U.S. Army. It falls if you believe the Reserve to be completely separate. Binksternet (talk) 02:41, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Oops, sorry, my mistake, I looked at the wrong cite. Gatoclass (talk) 04:13, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Since this article has such a nice photo portrait available from the US Army, if the hook is not selected for the top hook position on one of the Women's Day queues, using its photo, can the hook be instead saved for a non-Women's Day usage? I just want to see the photo employed. :-)
Binksternet (talk) 19:48, 1 March 2010 (UTC)


Marion Donovan

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Length, date and hook ref verified. --Bruce1eetalk 13:39, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Sure. That would be fine Calmer Waters 23:52, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Benjamin Stillingfleet

Benjamin Stillingfleet by Johann Zoffany

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 14:43, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


Richard Samuel

Portrait of Nine Muses

  • Comment: alt hooks welcome

Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg Seems Ok, but "leading blue stockings" sounds as a kind of joke. Maybe ALT

Wilma B. Liebman

Wilma B. Liebman

WilmaLiebman Housetestimony 12-2007.jpg

  • Here is an alternative image. ALT rollover: "Wilma B. Liebman testifying before the U.S. House of Representatives in 2007." It's a little less crisp, but much more "active" (if that makes sense). - Tim1965 (talk) 19:31, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The assertion that she was only the second woman to hold the office is unreferenced, so far as I can tell. It is only mentioned in the lead, and not in the portion of the article where the other part of the hook (the assertion that she was appointed on President Obama's first day in office) is referenced. Marylanderz (talk) 01:23, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Statement with citation has been added to the body of the article. -- Esemono (talk) 04:52, 18 February 2010 (UTC)


  • Symbol confirmed.svg Confirmed now. Agree with Tim that the second picture is better - less posed. Marylanderz (talk) 13:01, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Pardon my not paying attention, but I just noticed the International Women's Day (IWD) section (bottom of this page), coming up on March 8. If this makes it into the queue, it would be just fine with me if it were part of the IWD articles. It would add to the number of IWD articles, and it would allow another article to slip into the queue prior to that. - Tim1965 (talk) 14:24, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Moved to Women's Day. Ucucha 15:25, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I prefer the first image for 100 pixel width clarity. Binksternet (talk) 19:51, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Masako Katsura

Longer alternate

... that Masako Katsura's participation in the World Three-Cushion Billiards tournament of 1952 was the first time any woman ever competed in any billiards tournament for a world crown, and only ten years after any woman competed in any men's professional billiard competition in the U.S.?

The "Longer alternate" is a 285 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 05:32, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Save for Women's Day on March 8th? --74.13.126.52 (talk) 22:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Not a bad idea at all. I wasn't aware of it. It might be listed as a good article by then.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:01, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
See #Articles created/expanded for International Women's Day (March 8) below. --74.13.126.52 (talk) 05:07, 16 February 2010 (UTC) Someone moved this here. --74.13.129.158 (talk) 02:37, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Martha Matilda Harper

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I don't want to quibble, but I'm not sure that reference #1 (the National Women's Hall of Fame) is a reliable source. While the nomination form for inductees requires sources of biographical information that are examined by judges from the Hall of Fame, we don't know how rigourous the judges are or what kind of sources were used for any individual biography, and (unlike PBS, the publisher of reference #2) the Hall of Fame isn't widely known as a reputable source. Nyttend (talk) 16:17, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Emma Roberto Steiner

Nome, Alaska in 1900


Clara Campoamor

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg Length and date verified. Offline source accepted in good faith. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 08:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Florence Luscomb

  • Pictogram voting keep.svg Length, date, and hook verified; assuming good faith for reference #1, which (as far as I can see) is unavailable online. Nyttend (talk) 01:41, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Lore Agnes

Lore Agnes

*Perhaps this could be could be kept for a March 8 anniversary DYK? --Soman (talk) 22:01, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


Strobilanthes callosus

  • Why should this be on Women's Day? Ucucha 01:49, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
    • Because women like flowers? Joe Chill (talk) 01:52, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
  • It is not so far-fetched; in Eastern Europe it is actually quite common to give women flowers on March 8. Less so in the West, but aren't we trying to counter systemic bias? Lampman (talk) 21:30, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Considering the hook content, the author's contribution history, and the nomination date, I wonder if this nom was meant for the section for Republic Day in India on January 26th (since removed), instead of Women's Day on March 8th. --PFHLai (talk) 07:20, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
May very well have been, but there's no rectifying it now. However, it might be correct, so may as well hold on to it at this point. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 22:08, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I will leave it up to you all when to include it best. Thanks mrigthrishna (talk) 21:57, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Black Chicks Talking

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Hook length, date, and source verified. Marylanderz (talk) 13:17, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Evelina Haverfield

Sugru


Cathy Kelly

Surplant? displace? --74.14.19.14 (talk) 03:08, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
"surplant" isn't in the dictionary. "supplant" is, but I prefer "displaced". Art LaPella (talk) 05:41, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
The hook (and even the article, with "outsold Dan Brown and J. K. Rowling abroad") makes it seem as though she has sold more books than Dan Brown and J. K. Rowling, when the fact (still notable) is only that she reached the top of some week's bestseller list. Shreevatsa (talk) 15:04, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
I disagree that the hook or article are misleading, but the article has many single-sentence paragraphs and that needs to be fixed. Gatoclass (talk) 17:31, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Just to clarify: she reached the top in some week, not all of 2005. She was 77th in 2005 — not bad for a book released in September, but it's certainly false that 173,756 (the number of copies she sold in 2005) is greater than 2,860,101 (Rowling). But I take back my earlier opinion that the hook is misleading. "Bestseller list" is well-understood to be weekly, I guess. Shreevatsa (talk) 23:52, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Getting back to the point - I couldn't verify that she's sold over a million books. Gatoclass (talk) 14:27, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
The Times citation from the article details it by book at the bottom here. The precise figure was 1,433,032 in November 2005. --candlewicke 16:45, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg I see it now. Verified, with a tweak to the original hook per others' suggestions in the thread above. Gatoclass (talk) 04:52, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Terri Scott

  • Need better punctuation. Right now, "Sligo" appears to be Terri Scott's nickname. --74.13.130.232 (talk) 06:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
minor change to hook Victuallers (talk) 16:42, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Totka Petrova, Svetla Zlateva, Lilyana Tomova-Todorova, Rositsa Pekhlivanova, Nikolina Shtereva

  • Just a quick comment, I don't see the need to mention the runners whose articles are not DYK submissions, I think it would be better if you just stuck to a list of three new articles. Gatoclass (talk) 09:40, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Well, if you ask me, the hookiness lies in the numbers, it's pretty interesting and unusual that six different runners who medals within a decade. If we remove the non-new articles, we're left with only three, which isn't that interesting. Geschichte (talk) 10:35, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Nikolina Shtereva lacks any references, so it cannot be confirmed. I, too, don't see why we're listing the additional (non-DYK-qualifying) runners though. Otherwise Zlateva, Tomova and Petrova have all been verified. Date, length and references are okay for those three. So long as you remove the additional subjects from the hook or add references to Shtereva, the hook would be ready. TodorBozhinov 08:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Expanded Pekhlivanova and Shtereva. Geschichte (talk) 10:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Shtereva is indeed a 5x expansion, and Pehlivanova is both new and long enough to be included. Whether it's feasible to include so many articles in one hook is not for me to decide, but all bolded articles have been DYK-verified. TodorBozhinov 11:27, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I guess we could save it for women's day. I don't know why the given names of the runners are not listed though, I think it would be more appropriate if they were. Gatoclass (talk) 22:03, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
  • They are not given, in order to make the hook shorter. I'm fine with them being given, though, as well as saving for 8 March. Geschichte (talk) 10:33, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
  • The length isn't so important in a multi, so I think it's fine to include the given names. One shouldn't really refer to people only by their last names unless they are known by just that name, which is rarely the case. Gatoclass (talk) 16:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
So moved. --PFHLai (talk) 13:09, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Zoste patrikia

  • Save for Women's Day on March 8th? --74.14.19.14 (talk) 02:36, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Fine by me, a nice idea! Cheers, Constantine 13:27, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting keep.svg Length and date are okay, assuming good faith on offline references. TodorBozhinov 08:33, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
So moved. --PFHLai (talk) 13:58, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Rawya Ateya

Rawya Ateya waving to supporters during her 1957 electoral campaign

  • Save for Women's Day on March 8th? --74.14.19.14 (talk) 02:37, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
    Symbol question.svg Date, length verified, but Mr. Google suggests that she shared "the 1st prize" with Amina Shoukry. Comments? Materialscientist (talk) 09:49, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
    I'm OK with saving the hook for Women's Day. As for Amina Shoukry, the article already addresses the issue: "Ateya took her seat in Parliament on 14 July 1957. Although another woman (Amina Shukri) was elected in the 1957 elections, her victory was only announced on 22 July, thus making Ateya the first female parliamentarian in Egypt and the whole Arab world." This is backed up by Ref #2. --BomBom (talk) 21:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
    Pictogram voting keep.svg Allright with me. Materialscientist (talk) 03:40, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
    ALT ... that Egyptian officer Rawya Ateya (pictured) was the first woman to serve as a Member of Parliament in the Arab world? --BomBom (talk) 07:42, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Deleted the redundant word "ever" from both hooks. This seems an excellent candidate to be featured on Women's Day. Ucucha 04:51, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
So moved. --PFHLai (talk) 14:06, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Viola Gentry

▒ Wirεłεşş ▒ Fidεłitұ ▒ Ćłâşş ▒ Θnε ▒ ―Œ ♣Łεâvε Ξ мεşşâgε♣ 04:14, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg I assume the main article here is Viola Gentry, which is currently only 382 characters long. It needs to be at least 1,500 to qualify for DYK. Also, the hook is over the maximum of 200 characters. Timbouctou (talk) 04:18, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Sure. Thanks ▒ Wirεłεşş ▒ Fidεłitұ ▒ Ćłâşş ▒ Θnε ▒ ―Œ ♣Łεâvε Ξ мεşşâgε♣ 05:32, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I can see that you now have it over 800 prose. there is still time to expand. If you can get it over 1500 and cite the article and hook, I see no reason to make it ineligible so early from the article's creation date. It can be nominated within 5 days from creation so you are still within the window. Please attempt to continue expanding if able. Kindly Calmer Waters 07:05, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the pointer. I'll try over the weekend. Regards ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 03:46, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I did some work with helping out on expanding the article, per my check it's now 1589 B (273 words) of prose. I also took off some of the weasel words. For peer DYK review. I also would like to suggest the hook below.--TitanOne (talk) 10:59, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
ALT1:...that in 1928, Viola Gentry flew 8 hours, 6 six minutes and 37 seconds straight which set the first non-refueling endurance record for women?
I propose we move this to Special holdings area, specifically for Women's day? --TitanOne (talk) 20:13, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
So moved Bradjamesbrown (talk) 13:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
It's shrunk a little bit again and is now (according to DYKcheck) 1450 characters of prose.--BelovedFreak 13:37, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Expanded again a bit with a revision of word redundancy in 1 sentence plus the expansion of Fédération Aéronautique Internationale. Article now at 1502 WOP. Please let me know if that'll do. --TitanOne (talk) 16:30, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

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